Entropy and Astrology?

According to modern physical understanding, ordered systems tend to fall into disorder; discrete movement evolves towards a state of inert uniformity. This is entropy.

Now if we apply this to astrology then we see that those forms of astrology which introduce ever more planets, asteroids and other sensitive points bring entropy to the ordered system of seven planet astrology. This can easily be visualized. Imagine a chart filled with hundreds of sensitive points. It is so filled that there is no longer any discernible order. It in fact reaches a state of inert uniformity because all 360 degrees of the chart are occupied by at least one sensitive point! Interpretation becomes impossible. It becomes a joke.

If you think about it, allowing the “outers” into a chart is a step towards entropy. Even a traditional astrologer should pause for a moment and consider how he uses such sensitive points as the fixed stars, the arabic parts and antiscia.

Is there a difference between these points and the more modern asteroids, outer planets and planetoids?

If you look closer there is a difference. The imagery used for these points is more or less based on whim. For example an astronomer discovers a new asteroid. He is a fan of Sir Walter Scott and so names the asteroid, “Ivanhoe”. It is not at all impossible that before long an astrological entrepreneur will have written a book on the chivalric qualities of Ivanhoe in the different signs.

The traditional sensitive points on the other hand all have a multi-faceted imagery based on ancient mythic consciousness. In the case of the antiscia and the arabic parts only the imagery of the seven planets is involved. Ordered. Complete.

6 thoughts on “Entropy and Astrology?

  1. I currently have asteroid 10378 (Ingmarbergman) conjoined to my Ascendant. I have recently developed a taste for Swedish meatballs and serpent’s eggs. Could this possibly be due to the influence of this asteroid on my natus or in my esophagus? As Ingmarbergman begins to transit my second house cusp, IKEA has now taken over my life and it’s not good for my bank balance.

    Should I fashion a talisman of the Eye of the Graeae in order to invoke the assistance of the Three Sisters, or should I just pay a priest to perform a puja for me? Please advise as to the best course of action to follow before the Music of the Spheres turns into the Polka of the Planetoids.

  2. This almost sounds like a case for Dame Detrimentia C.E. 😉

    But as she is so terribly busy I might suggest two methods.
    1) If you calculate your charts by hand you are in for great savings. You only have to buy one ephemeris and not the 10 Volume asteroid and planetoid edition ( then again I may be out of date there could be 20 volumes by now)! Should your ephemeris still have any “additions”, simply ignore them!
    2) If you use a computer for your calculations simply turn all of the “extras” off in your preferences!

    Ingmarbergman was it? Better that than Don Quixote. Just think of all the bother trying to find a windmill! 🙂

  3. That’s an interesting thought, Thomas. I’m not sure whether the number of planets has any relation to entropy, let alone a direct one. Assuming however that this is true, what about then a six-planet astrology? Or five or four, etc? Does the best (most ordered) astrology operate with a single planet or no planet at all? If that’s not true then there must be an optimum, which is at seven planets you say. But why not six or eight, or indeed 2, 15 or 100?

    Yes, there is a significant difference between the seven planets and the countless numbers of asteroids, but I’m not so sure that Uranus and Neptune cannot add information to a chart. Using Ceres, Pluto and Eris may even prove fruitful although I’m not too crazy about the remainder.

    How about midpoints? The Part of Fortune is a midpoint but why use only one? What’s the optimum number of midpoints to use? How about the Moon’s nodes? Why not use other planetary nodes? What about aspects, how many is the optimum? Signs, houses, mansions: why 12, 27 or 28?

    These are crucial questions to astrology, and the research I am conducting may provide some of the answers. Connecting this theme to entropy is an intriguing thought.

  4. Dear Peter,
    The whole intention of my article was to stimulate thinking about all of the various sensitive points used both in traditional and modern derivations of astrology. The image of entropy used here is a chart with literally hundreds of points. With such density there is no longer any basis for sensible judgement. This is in contrast to the Dr. Nostuabuk article on the “Three Sisters” that uses mythic imagery. The names of the Graae could equally be used for the outers, even more so because the image of a cave without sunlight and moonlight describes their situation quite well. That brings us to why there are seven planets in astrology. They are the wandering stars that can be seen with the naked eye, and have been for ages. That is why there are not five or six planets.

    If you use midpoints your reference is always to two planets. The midpoint exists only with reference to them, not of itself. The same is true of the Arabian Points of which Fortuna is one. Fortuna is always the distance from the Moon to the Sun taken from the Ascendant. It can of course be a midpoint to Sun and Moon but usually it is not. The Moon’s Nodes cannot exist without the Moon, as they mark the point of the ecliptic that is cut by the Moon’s path. You will find that all traditional sensitive points – without exception – have some reference to one or two of the seven planets.

    Asteroids are a modern addition and their symbolic imagery is subject more to fancy than to a solid cosmological base. For these questions I highly recommend Titus Burckhardt’s book on the Mystical Astrology of Ibn ‘Arabi and my own humble attempts to explain some of this in the articles in the Category “Titus Burckhardt” here at this site.

    The modern physical concept of “entropy”, although used in modern cosmology is used here as a metaphor for an unconsidered proliferation of sensitive points. I hope this has answered your questions?

    with best wishes,

  5. Well, Entropy and Astrological Thought have come a long way.

    Why, just the other day, I ran across an astrologer who not only emplaced every point that has emerged over the last millenia, he also added sidereal points to a tropical chart. . . it looked like pepper pelted over a bowl of New England Clam Chowder !!!

    One good point, he didn’t include the space station. . . although for the life of me, I don’t know why he didn’t.

    Sir Arthyr,
    contemporary traditionalist

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