Comments on: Vincent van Gogh: Solar Return Charts (2)

By: Caroline

Caroline — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:21:59 +0000

Oh my goodness yes Thomas! Very Venusian indeed.

Love
CarO

By: Thomas

Thomas — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:16:33 +0000

Hello Caroline,
Yes indeed! The seeds for “art” were also laid in this period.
Although written in 1881 the following excerpt from a letter to Theo gives us some idea of what role Venus has in Vincent’s life:

“You see, for me that God of the clergy is as dead as a doornail. But does that make me an atheist? Clergymen consider me one – que soit – but you see, I love, and how could I feel love if I were not alive myself or if others were not alive, and if we are alive there is something wondrous about it. Now call that God or human nature or whatever you like, but there is a certain something I cannot define systematically, although it is very much alive and real, and you see, for me that something is God or as good as God. You see, when in due course my time comes, one way or other, to die, well, what will keep me going even then? Won’t it be the thought of love (moral or immoral love, what do I know about it?)

And good heavens, I love Kee Vos for a thousand reasons,

but precisely because I believe in life and in something real I am no longer as given to abstractions as before, when I had more or less the same ideas about God and religion as Kee Vos seems to have now.

I am not giving her up, but that spiritual crisis with which she is perhaps struggling must be given time, and I am prepared to be patient about it and nothing she says or does now makes me angry. But while she cherishes and clings to the old, I must work and keep my mind clear for painting and drawing and for business. So I did what I did from a need for affection and for reasons of mental hygiene.”

The whole letter can be found here; http://www.webexhibits.org/vangogh/letter/10/164.htm

Love,
Thomas

By: Caroline

Caroline — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:50:54 +0000

Solar Return 1876 Paris: France

Thomas said:
“The 22 degree mutable sign axis, in which the Nodes and the MC/IC axis are bound, is of particular interest as the MC/IC are at the midpoints of the Nodes”.

~~ CarO ~~ Nice catch Thomas! So Vincent’s natal MC was at the ‘bendings’ of the 1876 solar return Nodes when he was sacked from his job as an art dealer! :0)

I was rather ignorant about Van Gogh’s life and so looking at the 1876 solar return and eyeballing the return NN conjunct radical Venus I had assumed that he took up painting seriously as a profession that year. But Wicked-pedia says that 1876 was the year that Van Gogh was imbued with religious zeal and he became an unpaid Methodist missionary and teacher! That s.r. NN seems to have pushed his radical exalted 10th house Piscean Venus really ‘over the top’ n’est ce pas?!

What do you think?

Love
CarO